Ben Clemens FanGraphs Chat – 9/11/23

Ben Clemens: Hey all people

Ben Clemens: Sorry I’m late, simply bought again from a canine stroll, however let’s kick issues off instantly

Mike: …and there goes the final cause to tune into Yankee video games this yr.

Ben Clemens: Yeah, what a bummer. I wouldn’t go fairly that far, I’m nonetheless actually having fun with watching Volpe and Judge, however yeah, what a tragic ending to a tragic season

HassleDad: Hi Ben!  Long-time listener, first time caller.  With the information that Mike Trout may be on the block, what are your ideas on his commerce worth?  With a power again damage and a historical past of stepping into solely 100-110 video games per season as he enters his decline section, his contract is the other way up (7 years, $248M remaining).  An optimistic ZIPS projection has Trout as ~20 WAR over the following seven years (although a single 8 WAR Troutian season will change the mathematics), so is that this a state of affairs the place a single 45 FV participant will get it achieved?  Or do you assume that Moreno will eat a bit of the contract to get again some prospect capital?

Mike M: Who trades for Mike Trout?

Ben Clemens: There are going to be plenty of Trout commerce questions right this moment I’m positive, so I’ll simply offer you my normal ideas

Ben Clemens: I believe that there are groups who would surrender a good quantity for Trout with nothing coming again on the contract.

Ben Clemens: It’s seven years at 35 million a yr, which is clearly an enormous dedication, significantly if you happen to fear about his expertise declining along with the damage threat

Ben Clemens: however it’s simply laborious to get a hitter like that, so I can think about groups which are glad to run excessive payrolls however don’t have quite a bit to spend that on in the mean time being . This is just like the Giants, Yankees, possibly Red Sox

Ben Clemens: I believe it’d most likely be a foul deal from a pure baseball operations aspect, to be trustworthy. I’m all for consolidating up for stars and being prepared to simply accept a ‘surplus value hit’, however I’m actually afraid of Trout’s trajectory

Ben Clemens: Ignore the cash; he’s 31, simply had his worst price stat yr, and in addition won’t crack 400 PA this yr

Ben Clemens: that’s scary

Ben Clemens: But he’s freaking Mike Trout, if this was only a down yr and he’s, say, a 5-6 WAR RF for the following half-decade, it’s an enormous coup

Ben Clemens: so I believe that the Angels will most likely commerce him with the entire contract in the event that they transfer him, get again not a ton, and name it a day. I didn’t actually assume this for Ohtani — I assumed they’d prioritize huge names coming again relatively than shifting Rendon’s deal — however it’s completely different with Trout b/c we’re speaking about his personal contract, not tacking on a foul one

Appa Yip Yip: Davis Schneider is clearly not going to maintain hitting like Barry Bonds on steroids, however it positive looks as if he’s going to be higher than unranked org man, the place do you assume cheap expectations fall for him?

Ben Clemens: Specifically, till tomorrow

Ben Clemens: Actually, possibly don’t, as a result of I’m not precisely wanting into the long-term view, however I’m writing about him tomorrow is the purpose

J: Loved your Suzuki article, however one notice: it feels unfair to explain his protection as middling. SSS however all of his metrics are above common and improved since final season.

Ben Clemens: if Statcast is true thyis yr, he’s a +2 RF

Ben Clemens: that sounds fairly middling to me

Ben Clemens: like positive, they’re above common, however probably not by a lot

Princess Leia: Help us Obi-Wan Clemon-Obi, you’re our solely hope…

Except for Acuna. He’s fairly superior too.

KC Pain: Better Star Wars title, Dylan Lesko or Quinn Priester?

Ben Clemens: man, I really like the Star Wars title a part of this chat

Ben Clemens: I’m going with Akil Baddoo, personally, however I believe Quinn Priester is barely higher between these two

Insert Witty Name Here: Last yr in your 11/7/22 chat, I used to be gushing about Bryson Stott saying my eye take a look at was higher than the projections and also you replied mainly that you simply didn’t assume he was a transcendental hitter, however you continue to favored him and gave a cash quote of “Stott is the kind of player who looks better offensively than he is.” 10 months later, he nearly doubled his preseason WAR projection. I’m not taking a full victory lap right here as a result of it’s not like he’s getting MVP votes and it’s not like he’s blown away his projections (despite the fact that he’s surpassed them with one month left to play). But I’m curious to observe up in your ideas of Bryce’s Son Bryson Stott with this season nearly wrapped up.

Ben Clemens: I’d say that I’m reallllly impressed along with his protection

Ben Clemens: what a monster season at second

Ben Clemens: I actually didn’t see that coming

Ben Clemens: hitting-wise, I really feel like I used to be heading in the right direction, as have been you

Ben Clemens: He’s an above common hitter this yr, and it’s largely as a result of he doesn’t strike out very a lot

Ben Clemens: a participant you’d like to have in your staff

Ben Clemens: I nonetheless do assume his offensive recreation seems to be higher than it’s; I’ve watched a good variety of Phillies video games this yr and I’m stunned he solely has a .337 OBP with middling energy

Ben Clemens: however man, if he can play protection like this, that’s an superior on a regular basis starter

Derek: Mid-day canine walks are the #1 good thing about working from dwelling imo

Ben Clemens: I am going out between 9:30 and 10 most days, so after I’ve submitted a morning article

Ben Clemens: My canine is a delicate soul, she’s a bit reactive to different canines, and it’s a lot calmer this time of day

Appa Yip Yip: Blue Jays vs Rangers this feels tense I believe it’s gonna be a tense sequence

Ben Clemens: Oh yeah, positively the sequence I’m most excited for this week

Derek: (I promise I’m not a canine)

MilwaukeeBeerJays: If you would begin a franchise with any present participant, who wouldn’t it be and why is it Davis Schneider?

Ben Clemens: I’d begin it with Spencer Strider b/c he looks as if a cool dude to hang around with

Guest: What form of canine do you’ve? I wager it’s a superb boy (or lady).

Ben Clemens: She is, in fact, an excellent lady. She’s a retriever/pit mixture of some kind, a pleasant giant girl (75 lb), and has some nervousness points that we’re working by

Jake Marogersnik: *eyes emoji* Spencer Torkelson at present leads AL 1B in dwelling runs

Ben Clemens: Wow, that’s form of wonderful

Ben Clemens: I don’t assume it’s utterly true, as a result of Anthony Santander has performed 11 video games at first and is tied with Tork ,however man no first basemen are hitting homers this yr huh?

Ben Clemens: within the AL a minimum of

Ben Clemens: If you don’t depend Santander, there are three first basemen within the prime 30 AL HR hitters

Ben Clemens: Torkelson, Casas, Vlad

Noodles Hahn: Blake Snell’s Cy Young case appears to essentially revolve round how his stroll points are seen. At what level do the outcomes simply outweigh the peripherals? On the flip aspect, once I take a look at Striders numbers, I can’t justify him being shut with a 3.83 ERA. I get the underlying metrics recommend he’s been unfortunate, however am I unsuitable for principally not caring about xStats or FIP that a lot in Cy voting?

Ben Clemens: I’m form of off Strider in the mean time

Ben Clemens: I do assume that ‘what happened’ is an overused mind-set about it, as a result of loads of stuff that goes into ERA is out of a pitcher’s management

Ben Clemens: however this isn’t a Corbin Burnes case, the place his ERA was somewhat increased than his FIP however he was lapping the league in FIP and never far off in ERA

Ben Clemens: I imply, Burnes actually led the league in ERA that yr

Ben Clemens: and had a 1.63 FIP

Ben Clemens: Strider is getting tagged for approach too many homers, in my e book. 20 this yr

Ben Clemens: I believe I’d vote for Justin Steele tbh

Ben Clemens: fortunately the season doesn’t finish right this moment

TomBruno23: Help us Won-Bin Cho?

Princess Leia: Has anybody recommended Taijan Walker but?

Ben Clemens: Excellent selections

Derek: If (clearly large “if”) he will get traded: Trout to the Phillies appears nearly too excellent. Dombrowski isn’t afraid to empty the farm, Phillies can (and have present the willingness to) afford a minimum of some non-trivial portion of his contract, Trout is nearer to dwelling, Harper + Trout on the identical staff (!!!)… And maybe most significantly, Trout will get to expertise what appear to be his two favourite issues on the planet – precise climate, and the Philadelphia Eagles!

Ben Clemens: Honestly, I don’t see it. It’s simply an excessive amount of of a logjam with their current lengthy contracts

Ben Clemens: And you possibly can take no matter form of wealthy individuals transportation you employ from NY to see the Eagles 8 video games a yr

Ben Clemens: it’s not like Trout will solely purchase a home in Philly if he will get traded there

v2micca: Do you’ve copy editors on workers to proof-read articles.  I ask as a result of regardless of the quantity of datapoints and typically troublesome to spell names, I hardly ever discover any grammatical or spelling errors in your articles.  So, huge props to whoever handles your proof-reading.

Ben Clemens: Oh yeah, large shout out to Meg

Ben Clemens: and Jon Tayler

Ben Clemens: They deal with the copy-editing and in addition the factual stuff, which is way tougher given what number of baseball gamers exist and what number of statistics we’re utilizing in each article

Ben Clemens: I’m fairly good at spelling and I’d say middling at grammar, after which they polish it as much as excellent

Giant Gonzales: Now that they’re all the way down to 1% playoff odds, Boston ought to have loads of cash to spend within the offseason. After buying and selling Verdugo, what two beginning pitchers ought to they aim? I do know the homeowners are too low-cost to go for Ohtani, however what about huge contracts for Yamamoto and one of many Nola/Snell/Montgomery quantity 2 sorts?

Ben Clemens: Yeha, Yamamoto and Monty seems like a pleasant pair for me

re: AL 1B: Don’t overlook Justin turner.  More homers and only a usually approach higher season than Vlad Jr.

Ben Clemens: That’s only a miss by me, I didn’t understand what number of video games he’d performed at first

Ben Clemens: In my head he was a DH

JK: What’s your tackle the Farhan regime? I don’t assume I spotted how dangerous the state of affairs was that he took over, however the outcomes have additionally been middling.

Ben Clemens: I believe it’s a case of penny smart pound silly, however the pound silly half comes all the way down to some huge swings they’ve missed on and I’m undecided if it’s honest to knock them for not signing, say, Aaron Judge

Ben Clemens: the Giants appear extremely good at turning a nickel right into a 7 cent coin or no matter

Ben Clemens: actually spectacular capacity to each assist their very own prospects enhance and in addition discover non-prospect guys elsewhere that may contribute

Ben Clemens: They simply proceed to construct a staff that appears prefer it wants some star upside, and never signal stars

Ben Clemens: like, I form of assume that the entrance workplace just isn’t proud of the present composition of the roster

Ben Clemens: not b/c they’re unhappy about Yaz and J.D. Davis and Thairo and so forth, however as a result of the apparent transfer has been to spend a metric ton of cash so as to add a star and so they hold not doing it

Kwantifying: Pitchers are biased in the direction of not throwing the identical pitch twice in a row. You assume that’s an inefficiency?

Ben Clemens: I’ve tried to measure this so many occasions

Ben Clemens: I really can’t let you know what the ‘right’ reply is

Ben Clemens: it doesn’t *appear* like going back-to-back with the identical pitch delivers extra returns

Ben Clemens: however I’m not a fantastic statistician and I’m definitely not assured in my controls

Pads Fan: Despite their on-field outcomes this yr, shouldn’t the Padres be an interesting group from a TV broadcasting standpoint? Especially since possession has proven a willingness to financially commit long-term.

Ben Clemens: I believe they’re

Ben Clemens: San Diego is an effective market, too

Ben Clemens: being the one staff in a fairly large metro space works properly

v2micca: Regarding the Strider Homeruns this yr.  Do you assume a part of it’s simply the league getting extra video on him and understanding how higher to regulate to him.  He’s getting his Okay’s and has lowered his stroll price.  But I really feel that when he misses along with his pitches this yr, groups are punishing it extra constantly.

Ben Clemens: Yeah, I dunno about the entire ‘when he misses’ factor as a result of I do assume that errors get punished at a reasonably constant price

Ben Clemens: however I do assume that there’s extra video on him, and that groups are attempting laborious to not get eaten alive by excessive fastballs

bosoxforlife: I take a look at the Braves and really am stunned that their file isn’t nearer to 110-30. Michael Harris, who bats ninth, could be one of the best hitter on a quantity groups and so they function out two aces and two stable starters behind them.

Ben Clemens: yeah the Braves are ridiculous

Ben Clemens: I’m an enormous Harris fan, although I do assume they’re batting him ninth regardless of realizing he’s not the worst hitter on the staff

Ben Clemens: I believe he’s most likely nearer to fifth-best or so, possibly sixth?

Ben Clemens: it’s simply an outrageous offense although

Ben Clemens: The pitching aspect is extra stars and scrubs, for my part

Ben Clemens: I”m kinda down on Elder and Morton, although yeah they’re utterly cheap as 3/4 choices

Ben Clemens: however there’s a cause we mission htem for one of the best rest-of-season file by a mile

Ben Clemens: projected .612 profitable proportion, that’s fairly nuts

Ben Clemens: and a 31% likelihood of profitable the world sequence jeez!

C-low: Not excited for Os-Rays?

Ben Clemens: however the Rangers/Jays factor feels extra pressing as a result of the race is nearer and since one of many groups will miss the playoffs solely

bb: I’ve been listening to that Jordan Walker’s protection has been bettering (Dad’s eye take a look at, not all that dependable) are statcast defensive splits a factor?

Ben Clemens: They are, and it’s true!

Ben Clemens: Adam Akbani has the deets

darb: You and Lowe buying and selling Friday columns could be a hilarious bit one week

Ben Clemens: If I might do this I’d

Ben Clemens: He’s a biiiiiit extra well-known than me

Ben Clemens: Also, I’d do a tennis column if I might

Ben Clemens: fairly frankly, I watched an irresponsible quantity of tennis prior to now two weeks for somebody whose job is a baseball author

SouthernDandy: The Myles Straw for Phil Maton and Yanier Diaz commerce is wanting fairly one-sided at this level. Especially given Cleveland’s lack of energy.  Since May thirty first Yanier is 2nd within the AL in HR/ABs behind solely Ohtani!

Ben Clemens: Yeah, that one stung

Ben Clemens: maybe this can be a Myles Straw man argument, however he looks as if an actual proxy for the sorts of issues the Guardians get unsuitable

Ben Clemens: to be clear, they get a LOT proper

Brian: Speaking of throwing the identical pitch again to again…for so long as I’ve watched baseball (and doubtless for so long as their have been announcers) it has be stated {that a} pitch up and in units up a pitch low and away. By the time a hitter reaches the massive leagues they’ve most likely seen tens of hundreds of pitches. Would 1 pitch up and in actually make you lose all recognition of down and away?

Ben Clemens: ‘oh man, he got me again! Every time I see a high fastball I forget that other zones exist’

SouthernDandy: Tennis is superior. Very psychological sport as there may be nowhere to cover and you have to regroup and alter technique on the fly

Ben Clemens: plus due to the way in which the factors work, it units up plenty of thrilling moments

Ben Clemens: each time somebody is available in to web, there’s a possible spotlight

Ben Clemens: however then additionally yeah, it’s simply you on the market

Ben Clemens: I liked watching Aryna Sabalenka and Daniil Medvedev on this US Open since you might see them battling situations, confidence, their shot, all the pieces

Ben Clemens: in actual time

the man who asks the lunch query: what’s for lunch?

Ben Clemens: so right here’s a life hack my mother taught me

Ben Clemens: purchase the costco rotisserie rooster in a shrink wrapped bag ,shred it up, and freeze it in small baggies

Ben Clemens: make the baggies two servings every if you happen to usually make meals for 2, however you understand, that half is versatile

Ben Clemens: then you possibly can simply thaw a bag out and have pre-cooked rotisserie rooster very simply for any meal

Ben Clemens: so right this moment for lunch we’re making an avocado rooster and tomato salad with balsamic

Ben Clemens: however it’s gonna take no time in any respect b/c we took out a rotisserie rooster bag yesterday

Dan: Crow-Armstrong about to be known as up. Any ideas about how he will likely be used, the affect he might need?

Ben Clemens: I’m very skeptical of his profile if I’m being trustworthy

Ben Clemens: I’m glad to be confirmed unsuitable, I hope I’m confirmed unsuitable as a result of he’s the form of participant I like, speedy middle fielder with instruments

KC Pain: Did Yainer Diaz slip by cracks?  He didnt appear to be touted that extremely when he was moved.  I believe you guys had prime 3 for Houston coming into this season so props.  What saved you guys excessive on him and why did others whiff?

Ben Clemens: This is extra of a query for Eric, however yeah, he was not significantly extremely touted coming into the yr

Ben Clemens: I used to be form of stunned, to be trustworthy, however I’m all the time a sucker for catchers who acn each hit and don’t appear like disasters behind the plate

Ben Clemens: I overrate catching prospects constantly, it’s a gap in my analysis expertise that I do know I’ve

Ben Clemens: Emphasis on don’t appear like disasters, I’m not saying Diaz is a superb catcher

Princess Leia: Got an quaint shootout brewing in Philly right this moment. Are you watching whereas we chat?

bosoxforlife: Did you simply see the play within the Braves-Phillies recreation? Remarkable

Ben Clemens: I haven’t turned it on but, I’m somewhat bit behind on getting tomorrow’s article on faucet and I used to be feeling barely under-baseball-knowledged for this chat so I’m mainly scanning leaderboards and field scores on my second monitor

Mac: At this level after dominguez’s UCL tear, it doesn’t move the odor take a look at to say that the yankees’ damage issues are all dangerous luck or older gamers, does it?

Ben Clemens: it form of does to me, however damage evaluation is absoutely not one thing I focus on

Guest: Fantasy Championship this week which 3 do you choose:

Guest: Keller(WSN), Skubal(@LAA), Williams(@SF,TEX), or Wicks(@COL,@ARI). Sorry hit ship too early!

Ben Clemens: Ooh, good query. I believe I’d simply go together with Williams (two begins, none in Coors) as a result of I’m not overwhelmed by the opposite choices

Ben Clemens: So I’m simply going again to normal rules

Ben Clemens: I believe Skubal is the runner up for me

Ben Clemens: however actually, two begins and one among them being towards the Giants sounds fairly engaging

bosoxforlife: Acuna’s arm is pretty much as good as his bat.

Ben Clemens: Also, he’s not that good of a fielder?

Ben Clemens: Mike Petriello had a superb twitter thread on that right this moment

darb: Cardinals fan is PCA hater, eh? Just kidding, hope you’re unsuitable although!

Ben Clemens: Here’s a PCA comp for you

Ben Clemens: Harrison Bader

Ben Clemens: mainly I don’t love the strikeout price, and so he’s going to wish to essentially smash the ball when he connects to run a superb offensive line towards huge league pitching

Ben Clemens: however man, that glove

Ben Clemens: He has a extremely voracious method on the plate

Ben Clemens: and I do assume he has plus energy

Ben Clemens: however I can completely see a 35% strikeout price, 6% stroll price, runs into some dwelling runs however nonetheless a beneath common offensive participant form of future for him

SouthernDandy: Any ideas about gamers transitioning to taking part in some 1B.  I’d wish to see the Astros give Yanier Diaz and presumably Michael Brantley(assuming Astros resign him, which they need to) a while there subsequent yr.  Even if Abreu rebounds some, he’s not getting any youthful

Ben Clemens: Yeah, these each make sense to me. I’d most likely hold giving Yainer as a lot time behind the plate as he can deal with, as a result of it’s actually precious to have a catcher who can hit and that additionally means they’ll play Maldonado much less

Ben Clemens: however rotating him in there? Sure

Ben Clemens: and Brantley just isn’t actually an outfielder today, I’m with you

v2micca: Acuna simply put up HR quantity 36.  I believe he could wish to be part of that 40-40 membership.

Ben Clemens: That man is sweet, I’ve heard

HappyFunBall: IMHO, if the LAAs are prepared to commerce Trout that alerts full rebuild. At that time they’ll instantly shift into the mode the place they disconnect price and profitable. In different phrases, if I’m the LAAs and buying and selling Trout, I’m prepared to eat a few of his contract in an effort to carry some actual expertise into the farm system. That brings extra than simply the massive spenders to the desk.

Ben Clemens: I suppose I might see that?

Ben Clemens: I don’t fairly image Arte Moreno as the sort to eat a bunch of cash, although

Ben Clemens: Maybe I’m unsuitable. This is the form of factor that I discover it not possible to have precious perception on with no supply

Appa Yip Yip: Fans like to try to discover somebody guilty for accidents as a result of “bad luck” is a essentially unsatisfying reply however like. Injuries are simply dangerous luck your staff’s coaching workers aren’t incompetent.

Ben Clemens: Oh it could possibly completely be each

Ben Clemens: But I agree that it’s very laborious to determine, and {that a} good default assumption is ‘bad luck’

Ben Clemens: The Mets actually had incompetent trainers for years within the mid-2010’s

Ben Clemens: you’ll by no means persuade me in any other case

bosoxforlife: I’ve seen a disproportionate variety of misplayed flies this yr. Do you assume right this moment’s gamers have a lot bother with the solar in day video games as a result of they don’t play many day video games? and Harris only one over the CF fence, then Acuna made up for his misplay with a subsequent pitch dinger

Ben Clemens: Hm, I haven’t actually observed that, and it seems like a tough factor to analysis

Ben Clemens: That stated, I can a minimum of purchase the pitch. It’s true that there are fewer day video games basically. But my null speculation is that no, baseball gamers are simply fairly good, and typically the solar is vivid

Chloe: Should JP France be an Astros playoff starter over Hunter Brown? How do you anticipate future efficiency from guys who come out of nowhere like this?

Ben Clemens: I’d not begin him over Hunter Brown, however I’d begin him over Cristian Javier

Ben Clemens: That stated, Brown has been abysmal in his final 4 begins so I wouldn’t hate giving him a relaxation begin or one thing to let him regroup

Appa Yip Yip: What staff would you place Trout on, if you happen to might drive a commerce by fiat?

Ben Clemens: Oh, the Giants

Ben Clemens: I’d wish to see Trout play quite a bit

Ben Clemens: and I attend far more Giants video games than some other staff

G4: Counsell your NL supervisor of the yr? Snitker is sweet however doesn’t appear to have to work as laborious for wins.

Ben Clemens: I believe I’d vote for Torey Lovullo tbh

Ben Clemens: I don’t actually know the way supervisor of the yr voting SHOULD work

Ben Clemens: however c’mon, the Diamondbacks are a playoff staff, who noticed that coming?

Ben Clemens: Craig Counsell has achieved a fantastic job of getting Devin Williams and taking part in within the NL Central, and I do assume he’s a wonderful supervisor

Ben Clemens: I can’t get very labored up over supervisor of the yr votes, although

Ben Clemens: so choose who you need, I’d say

bosoxforlife: Who is your alternative for NL MVP? Mookie is nice however does 40-70 clinch it for Acuna?

Ben Clemens: I’d go together with Mookie proper now however I believe it’s gonna be laborious to disclaim Acuna

Ben Clemens: if he hits all these milestone spherical numbers

SouthernDandy: JP France has seemed stable however a bit lucky outcomes smart to me

A Boy Named Yu: Who you bought for NL Cy Young?

Ben Clemens: I’ve Steele proper now, however actually I’ve whoever pitches greatest of their final 4 begins

ZackAttack: When Cole wins the CY this yr will Wheeler be the brand new “best active pitcher never to win the award”, who else are candidates?

Ben Clemens: I used to be gonna snigger at ‘when’ however man, it actually does look that approach

Ben Clemens: Castillo is the one individual actually inside shouting distance I believe

Ben Clemens: hmmmm…. different candidates. Max Fried, Adam Wainwright, Kevin Gausman

Ben Clemens: Brandon Woodruff deserves a nod

Ben Clemens: Wainwright is a humorous one as a result of woof, he’s dangerous now, however he was superior for fairly some time

darb: Is Cole, not Waino, one of the best lively pitcher to not win one?

Ben Clemens: I believe I’d marginally give it to Cole due to the absurd peak, however they’re most likely the highest two

Ben Clemens: Hyun JIn Ryu

SouthernDandy: The AL West seems to be like a 3 staff race for the following a number of seasons.  Who do you assume is greatest arrange for the following 3-5 years, beginning subsequent season between: Astros, Mariners, and Rangers?

Ben Clemens: Gimme the Mariners, which is all the time a scary factor to say

Ben Clemens: I actually like their pitching core, and I believe that ‘find some dudes around Julio’ works

Ben Clemens: Wow I realllly thought Sale gained in both 2014 or 2017

Ben Clemens: yeah, he’s forward of Wheeler for me

Ben Clemens: most likely nonetheless behind Wainwright? however it’s shut

MilwaukeeBeerJays: Which 1 would you select: you get to seize a hotdogs with babe Ruth, you get to have dinner with Shohei Ohtani at Tokyo’s greatest sushi restaurant otherwise you get to drink 74 beers with Wade Boggs on a helicopter?

Ben Clemens: Ohtani for me. I do assume that he has one of the best exercise, too

Ben Clemens: plus I really like sushi and in addition love Tokyo

KC Pain: What about Darvish?  I do know he had some stud years however I dont assume he ever gained one both.  Mind blown about Sale. Thought he had one.

Ben Clemens: up there as properly

Ben Clemens: Darvish is one among my favourite pitchers

Ben Clemens: he additionally has two second place finishes

Ghost of Wade Boggs: Nolan Ryan most likely deserves some competition within the Cy Youngless leaderboards (until he’s already been talked about and I missed it)

Ben Clemens: oh, it’s simply lively gamers

Ghost of Wade Boggs: I’ll see myself out then

Ben Clemens: But he’d clearly be very excessive on the listing if we have been doing all gamers

Ben Clemens: him and a bunch of fellows who pitched earlier than the award existed

Ben Clemens: Cy Young might be one of the best pitcher to by no means win a Cy Young award

bosoxforlife: Sadly Sale is popping into what Wainwright has change into. It just isn’t enjoyable watching the greats exit this fashion.

Ben Clemens: I’m particularly bummed about Waino as a result of final yr was so nice

Ben Clemens: stunning revival, playoff staff with enjoyable retiring veterans

Ben Clemens: The 2022 Cards season was one among my favorites

Ben Clemens: Seeing the Pujols renaissance was amazilng

Dave: Do you assume MLB will introduce any new guidelines this offseason to discourage doing what the Angels did by dumping so many gamers through waivers?

Ben Clemens: No, probably not

Ben Clemens: for all of the rending of clothes and gnashing of enamel, like, so what?

Ben Clemens: are we upset that the Reds bought two rotation outfielders?

Ben Clemens: or that the Guardians bought 10 IP and 13 ER out of Lucas Giolito thus far?

Ben Clemens: Giolito even misplaced to the Angels, woof

Ben Clemens: individuals acted like this was the tip of baseball legitimacy

Ben Clemens: and like, c’mon

Ghost of Wade Boggs: Ok, on the alternative finish of the spectrum, who would you say are the worst pitchers to have gained a Cy Young?

Ben Clemens: Rick Porcello, haha

Ben Clemens: I’m positive there are some from earlier than my time

Ben Clemens: I see {that a} reliever named Mark Davis gained the NL Cy Young in 1989, that was presumably not a fantastic determination

Ben Clemens: yeah okay I believe the reply may be Mark Davis

Ben Clemens: he’s a reliever with a profession 4.17 ERA

Ben Clemens: ooh, possibly LaMarr Hoyt?

Ben Clemens: there have been some actually dangerous cy younger winners

Ben Clemens: LaMarr Hoyt gained with a 3.53 ERA, so I’m not even positive what the joke was right here

Ben Clemens: Jack Morris had a decrease ERA and pitched extra innings, and even cracked the 20 win plateau

Ben Clemens: 3.66 ERA, my apologies

Zach: Steve Bedrosian, reliever who gained in 1987

Ben Clemens: Yeah, another choice

Farhandrew Zaidman: Booting the A’s out of Vegas (and reportedly letting them hold the title) to instantly declare what a fantastic Expansion website Oakland is…. what are we doing right here?

Ben Clemens: look, these items has not gone over properly

Ben Clemens: It’s gone over particularly poorly within the bay

Farhandrew Zaidman: Speaking of not passing the odor take a look at, apparently Forbes bought its palms on the A’s financials and confirmed the entire “losing $40 mil per year” factor.

Ben Clemens: I’m very to get my palms on these reviews

Ben Clemens: I used to be speaking about them with Meg this morning

Ben Clemens: so the A’s have round $220mm in prices yearly apparently

Ben Clemens: and their $20 million improve from final yr was attributed to non-baseball personnel hiring

Ben Clemens: however by my math, they make use of round 250 individuals (listed on their mlb web page) apart from gamers

Ben Clemens: so I can’t fairly determine how the mathematics provides up

Ben Clemens: simply basically

Ben Clemens: I’d love to really get to have a look at these numbers

Ben Clemens: like I don’t even have a fantastic thought for the place all these bills are coming from off the sector

KC Pain: Poor Phil Niekro by no means bought a Cy Young. Studs years had somebody beat him out w stats very comparable.  ☹️

HappyFunBall: Comparing the 1989 NL Cy Young voting outcomes to FG’s pitching leaderboard for a similar cohort is … form of stunning actually. It’s a bit wonderful how far we’ve come

CAL: An damage like Rengifo’s (Bicep Tendon Rupture), does which have a big unfavourable affect on what we should always anticipate subsequent season? It sounds dangerous however there’s additionally a complete offseason to get well.

Ben Clemens: Let’s simply say I’m apprehensive

Ben Clemens: I’m, once more, not an damage professional

Ben Clemens: But sure that sounds terrible

Ben Clemens: Sorry, I’m wanting by the Braves financials proper now tryihng to reconcile them with the A’s

Ben Clemens: and bought too caught up

Ben Clemens: that’s a job for after this chat

Farhandrew Zaidman: Pour one out for George Kirby, who was completely raked over the coals by each 40 one thing or 50 one thing retired SP with a twitter account this weekend.

Ben Clemens: Oh yeah, bear in mind, gamers shouldn’t be trustworthy

Ben Clemens: crucial that you simply’re not trustworthy about ever feeling drained or down

Ben Clemens: (this isn’t actual recommendation, please don’t observe it)

Ben Clemens: Alright, on that notice, I’m going to go take a look at monetary statements and make lunch

Ben Clemens: Have a fantastic week everybody, and I’ll discuss to you once more subsequent Monday